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Discussions about specific materials / no minimum age

« on: January 03, 2010, 04:24:26 AM »

You firmly state with all confidence a claim that you yourselves prove incorrect 
I’m not so sure children are bad by their nature. Some become bad when they grow up, and even that is not their fault. The minute they leave of the womb they absorb speciesist and aggressive messages in every aspect of life from a society that takes those two for granted. No wonder that it’s so hard to recontemplate these perceptions in later stages of life. But on the other hand it is possible - for a fact. Me and every vegan and even the O.O.S. members were raised in a speciesist society and managed to question the common consent and form an alternative perspective.
There should be a minimum age for expectations of children to make decisions based on moral and empathy as they are not yet able to differentiate between right and wrong. They don’t choose to do wrong, they don’t comprehend so it’s irrelevant and very unfair to make such heavy accusations against them. Once they grow up it will be much more relevant.

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Discussions about specific materials / A thrill to kill

« on: September 20, 2009, 06:04:46 AM »

OOS-I'd like to get it straight, the argument in Thrill to Kill is that outlawing hunting is wrong because other ways to torment animals for amusement might be found??
The blood thirsty huntsman were a lost cause from the starts, this doesn’t mean they should be allowed to curry their sadistic desires as they wish   

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Discussions about specific materials / the most ambivalent argument

« on: September 10, 2009, 02:50:36 AM »

I’ve seen your "even the most selfish argument is not working" and I really don’t get you. You say it’s unrealistic/impossible to veganize the entire world population but on the other hand you criticize these sorts of inducements methods that take into consideration these views and work with what they got to help the animals