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General Discussion / Re: The Most Important Massage Ever Voiced

« on: October 17, 2011, 06:31:10 AM »

I am a little confused by you KiSsMyKaNgArOo. If you believe in this:

Because it really is the one and the only solution to the greatest and most diabolical catastrophe ever to grace this reality we're capable of perceiving. The catastrophe that is life itself and the misfortune of being born into an existence so incredibly tragic and morally inconceivable that our very psychologies - upon being born in this place - are forced to ever progressively numb us to the tortuous suffer of mere existence, from our very first day of coming into being.

Then why work on and hope for this:

I'm hoping that penance will precipitate by means of many methods, including;
+ In the form of non-complicity with capitalism's unsustainable "continual growth"
+ In the form of non-complicity with castes, class, speciesism, slavery and debt bondage.
+ In the form of non-complicity with corporate-government who perpetuate, encourage, justify and subsidise "suffer4profit" paradigms and social mores and whom dubb the mere philosophical debate of alternatives as "terrorist activity".

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General Discussion / Re: flexitarians

« on: October 14, 2011, 01:36:11 PM »

Wow that is really depressing what you wrote about Africa. Based on the manifest and some common knowledge I thought it was only in Asia. Shit. That’s really horrible.
People go out of their way to cling onto the existence of god regardless of any reason because they need it. They do everything they can to justify procreation as opposed to any reason and morality because they are designed to procreate. And people do everything they can to justify meat eating as opposed to any reason and morality because they want to.
They need god, they are designed to procreate and they want to eat meat. There is nothing to do with this race but to kill it. I see no other option.

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General Discussion / Re: flexitarians

« on: October 14, 2011, 04:01:52 AM »

You must not be flexile with flexitarians. Very soon the factory farms vegetarians become vegetariansists people who think vegetarianism is good but are not ones themselves. They are also called hypocritarians.
Next there will be Moderatarians (people who eat meat on small portions only) and afterwards oldatarians (eating old animals only) roadkillarians, huntingtarians and of course death from natural causesatarians.

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General Discussion / Re: flexitarians

« on: October 12, 2011, 10:10:12 AM »

And I am not sure they see themselves as part of the liberation movement to any degree at all.

Of course they see themselves as a liberation group as well, Liberation for all creatures, from all suffering, for all times. But Lfacfasfat is not as catchy as O.O.S is it … :)

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Discussions about specific materials / Re: veggie hotdog eating contest

« on: March 17, 2010, 04:37:30 AM »

Yea I totally agree I should definitely be more forgiven towards activists who are still stuck with the cruelty free notion and veganism is ideal and who ignore basic things like how can humanity feed almost 7 billion creatures without conquering substantial part of the terrestrial part of the world!?!?!
What are you saying, that they shouldn’t have made this article?!

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Discussions about specific materials / Re: no minimum age

« on: January 03, 2010, 07:41:47 AM »

Personally I don’t think children and adults are all bad but they are further from being good from what I’ve seen so far…
I know very little about psych theories but I don’t think any professional would dispute that humans are aggressive beings at a certain degree, but I’d avoid going any deeper into this field. Besides, I don’t think it’s necessary
"Some become bad when they grow up, and even that is not their fault."
I don’t think it’s a matter of fault, just cause and effect, just the same as you’d impound a mentally disabled person loose with a gun on the streets – not as a punishment as he’s unaware of the consequences of his actions, but to protect anyone in harm’s way.
Just like those at the receiving end don’t inquire about the motives for the unjust behavior against them, I don’t care about it either. If you take one thing from all of this it’s that it must not be about serving justice, rewording or punishing- it must be about acknowledging that whatever the reason -if the end result is someone getting hurt then you must prevent it whenever you can.

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Discussions about specific materials / Re: same old all or nothing

« on: January 03, 2010, 06:08:42 AM »

This approach is so self centered because rationally focusing on the fact that each animal is a whole universe supposed to be the most depressing thought. The idea of thinking about one animal which is an individual with feelings and longings and desires and yearnings and pain and pleasure and etc supposed to depress you even more because there are billions just like this one. The thought that each of them is an individual, a whole universe, that each long, desire, yearn, and etc is the most depressing thought existed. The fact that this thought is what comforts you is a proof that all you are focused on is yourself and your desire to feel that you make a difference, that you are important. It is all about you. It is all about you wanting to see the change in your own eyes.
There is no sense in trying to think about the individual instead of the massive numbers because the massive numbers represent the number of exploited individuals.
Who are you kidding? Factory farms are massive amounts of suffering individuals!

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Discussions about specific materials / Re: same old all or nothing

« on: January 02, 2010, 04:26:32 AM »

it is not a ray of light it is a photon and it is not a dark room it is a dark universe.

maybe the admin don’t want to be too aggressive or something but I can allow myself to say that advocacy is waste of time  In all senses
As an activist, you are a miniature particle that even regardless of the odds between the animal exploitation industries and the rest of the suffer factors in this horrible world, the animal rights/liberation/welfare/protection/defense or what ever you call it activists, don’t even aim at solving the problem but dealing only with the symptoms and it becomes a total waste of time when they can’t even deal with them. Considering this and you can’t really argue with this slideshow’s message. Animal rights advocacy is too little, at the wrong place and way too late.